Internet …who are the players behind ITU & Google wants #freeandopen Internet could this be a play for digital domination play?

Posted on November 18, 2012


This digital blog & journal … is about my own research, my opinions and thoughts and awareness …as we all try to make sense of this utility called “Internet” and why some of us have no end point rights mainly around the dark side of the Internet. At times it is not a fair game when it comes to the cyber world and security safety for many of us as end users……I have been working away to find a solution for end point safety for my digital projects and  I write some of my own thoughts, around how  the digital game is played by many groups, individuals, companies and global institutions and this includes many global NGOS……who many want to control many of us in various ways, when it comes to the Internet and digital games they all play… about our own information we post on many of these Internet sites and our communication…….ultimately if you read some of the posts and conversation …. it is all geared towards  “the monetary cost and not the human costs or is it about the  “digital domination”…. I have spoken previously in some of my posts … Ashie Hirji

Russia Demands Internet Takeover By The UN… And Then Retracts It @techdirt

Last week, the Russians released their proposal, first in Russian and a few days later with an English translation to the ITU — and both versions quickly leaked. You can download it from the Internet Archive or view the embed below. It is a pretty blatantly bad document. Larry Downes, over at, has a pretty thorough analysis of the document and why it’s troubling. Here’s a snippet:

The leaked proposal would strongly endorse national control over those parts of the Internet that reside within a country’s borders, including ISPs, traffic, and engineering. One suggested change to the treaty, for example, declares that “Member States shall have the sovereign right to manage the Internet within their national territory, as well as to manage national Internet domain names.”

Russia is also calling for a major revision to the multi-stakeholder governance process that has long-presided over domain names and Internet addressing, which it calls a “critical transnational resource.” Under a proposed revision, the treaty would be amended to make clear that “Member States shall have equal rights in the international allocation of Internet addressing and identification resources.”

Today, oversight of domain names and IP addresses is delegated to ICANN, a nongovernmental organization, which manages key Internet resources through a complex mechanism. According to ICANN, its model is “bottom up” and includes “registries, registrars, Internet Service Providers (ISPs), intellectual property advocates, commercial and business interests, noncommercial and nonprofit interests, representation from more than 100 governments, and a global array of individual Internet users.”

The ITU, by contrast, allows only its member nations to vote. Private organizations can participate in its proceedings by paying a large annual fee but cannot propose amendments or vote for more information catch this post

ITU has a mission @mymulticast

ITU has a mission to connect the world and they show pictures of children …..and let us not forget there is a dark side of INTERNET the unprotected issue for many end users…and “without proper cyber security safety in place and I say mainly for many global  innocent children and women” we will be putting many innocent children, women and innocent humanity  in a compromising situation from the current dangers that take place…. I BELIEVE the United Nations and ITU has not thought well on the current cyber dangers taking place can’t see them taking over the Internet many users who believe in digital innovation will not agree on the UN to take control and so much for Internet democracy  ignoring the Human COST  vs Monetary Cost ………………………Ashie Hirji  @mymulticast

United Nations Telecom Agency ‘Not Surprised’ By Google 

Google’s  stand  and the debate  surrounding an upcoming United Nations telecommunications summit, launching a campaign Tuesday to encourage Web users to sign a petition advocating for a “free and open Web,” while at the same time decrying the conference as a “closed-door meeting,” involving proposals from world governments to “increase censorship and regulate the Internet.”

Google’s debate over a UN telecom gathering is set to review regulations affecting the internet, claiming it is “the wrong place” to make decisions about the future of the web. In a posting on its “take action” blog this week, Google said the December gathering of the UN’s International Telecommunications Union comes  from a  growing backlash on internet freedom. The ITU’s World Conference on International Communications opening in December in Dubai will update global telecom rules for the first time since 1988,  and some countries see this as an opportunity to set up new rules for the internet….Unites States advocacy groups,  officials and lawmakers, along with a number of internet activists, have expressed concern that proposals from China, Russia and other nations could threaten the open model of the internet by giving the UN and the ITU agency a greater role. Google’s statement said “the ITU is the wrong place to make decisions about the future of the internet” because “only governments have a voice at the ITU”, including some “that do not support a free and open internet”. “The ITU is also secretive,” Google said. “The treaty conference and proposals are confidential.” Google said some proposed treaty changes “could increase censorship and threaten innovation” and others “would require services like YouTube, Facebook, and Skype to pay new tolls in order to reach people across borders. This could limit access to information – particularly in emerging markets.”  this source info is from  (AFP)
According to  Google ‘s position a post on Al Jazeera states .  “US position Google’s comments backed the US position, which is that the non-government “multi-stakeholder” system of the internet should remain in place.

“Governments alone should not determine the future of the internet,” the Google blog said. The billions of people around the globe that use the internet, and the experts that build and maintain it, should be included.

The Google response comes a week after Russia submitted its proposal to the ITU, provoking strong reactions from some online activists.

Larry Downes, an analyst with the Bell Mason Group consultancy who follows technology issues, said the Russian proposal “makes explicit” Moscow’s desire to bring the internet under greater control of the UN agency and diminish the
role of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, which manages the internet address system.

“The Russian federation’s proposal … would in specific substantially if not completely change the role of ICANN in overseeing domain names and IP addresses,” Downes said in a blog post.

“Of course the Russian Federation, along with other repressive governments, uses every opportunity to gain control over the free flow of information, and sees the internet as its most formidable enemy.”

The ITU’s World Conference on International Communications opening next month in Dubai will update global telecom rules for the first time since 1988 and with the current state of Internet digital  revolution, some countries see this as an opportunity to set up new rules for the internet.  Do  keep in mind when they first wrote their regulations and  policies rules, do remember many of these social networking sites were never around this includes possible big  social internet sites,  Facebook, Twitter and Linked In, You Tube were not around when this treaty was born……….  obviously we get carried away -when it comes to digital democracy revolution within the digital sector and if we truly think this out who are the “key players” involved here.   There is a huge amount of greed, power and control taking place  to dominate the Internet….and  without understanding what happens back door we are still in the mercy of big power and the  Internet  tends to have many dark holes and as they say there is a ” dark side of Internet”   and the wealth that is being created by many of these big governments and powers to be ….unfortunately what gets ignored is the  “human cost” involved and many ignore these issues…many do focus on the  monetary cost. When we talk of ” Internet as a democracy entity or utility” I believe we  are kidding ourselves….we  truly have no end point security or safety rights nor do we as end users have any rights, when it comes to the Internet …if we all work as educators,  social media activists  and activists fighting for our  own human rights or those who who live in  their countries……If you believe we have rights as users in many of these developing countries.. hey let me know …I have no rights what so ever to even protect my information or myself over the Internet.. may be…. totally off the wall, but have experienced some issues when it comes to the Internet itself  during many of my own projects…..catch the video below on The Net Delusion….. I believe  it gives us some clarity & understanding the other side of Internet… a  conversations taking place on the Google thread  #freeandopen

the net delusion  @mymulticast

the net delusion @mymulticast

posted on Google plus comment thread…….a user posts .”smuggle internet independent boxes with satellite connection to all the dictatorship countries or create a mesh network +EZE V – not everything is so simple as explained even by  Evgeny Morozov…How the Internet strengthens dictatorships” posted on the  Google comment  thread.

I first came across  Evgeny Morozo’s work & book  when I was watching a documentary on Charlie Rose he was  interviewing Tim Wu on the topic on net neutrality…The Master Switch  “The Rise and Fall of Information Empires”  a simple video for none geeks …captures our imagination..


Evgeny’s Book Description “The revolution will be Twittered!” declared journalist Andrew Sullivan after protests erupted in Iran in June 2009. Yet for all the talk about the democratizing power of the Internet, regimes in Iran and China are as stable and repressive as ever. In fact, authoritarian governments are effectively using the Internet to suppress free speech, hone their surveillance techniques, disseminate cutting-edge propaganda, and pacify their populations with digital entertainment. Could the recent Western obsession with promoting democracy by digital means backfire?

In this spirited book, journalist and social commentator Evgeny Morozov shows that by falling for the supposedly democratizing nature of the Internet, Western do-gooders may have missed how it also entrenches dictators, threatens dissidents, and makes it harder—not easier—to promote democracy. Buzzwords like “21st-century statecraft” sound good in PowerPoint presentations, but the reality is that “digital diplomacy” requires just as much oversight and consideration as any other kind of diplomacy.
Marshaling compelling evidence, Morozov shows why we must stop thinking of the Internet and social media as inherently liberating and why ambitious and seemingly noble initiatives like the promotion of “Internet freedom” might have disastrous implications for the future of democracy as a whole.
Reviews about the book speaks  many interesting thought provoking  facts.  It would be interesting and taking a back step to think this through…around the UN and its Agency ITU wanting to regulate the Internet…and it is these same groups who are all in bed with the governments, mainstream media and big technology companies….. so if we talk of ” innovation” well lets remember that the Internet is a USA utility…..and all those  governments are all connected to the hip with the  UNITED NATIONS, off course they will do  everything to  suppress many of us users  and many of us who believe in innovative technologies and digital inclusion for all… they they will always control us users… let us wake up and stop talking of Internet democracy, if that was the fact – hey I would have been at the ITU conference in 2007 when I sent my proposal showcasing my work – some of them don’t want new disruptive technologies to come up…freeandopen …also gives them the right to snoop on us all .. double edge sword.
The Independent, January, 2011
Internet freedom”, in short, is a valiant sword with a number of blades, existing in several dimensions simultaneously. As we go down the rabbit-hole of WikiLeaks, Morozov’s humane and rational lantern will help us land without breaking our legs.”
Huntington News, January 7, 2011
Morozov’s ‘The Net Delusion’ should be read by cockeyed optimists and pessimists alike. It’s as important today as McLuhan’s  books (“The Gutenberg Galaxy,” “Understanding Media,” “The Medium is the Massage,” etc.) were in the 1950s through the 1970s.”
New York Times, January, 23 2011
The Net Delusion, argues that Westerners get carried away by the potential of the Internet to democratize societies, failing to appreciate that dictators can also use the Web to buttress their regimes. A fair point.”
Boston Globe, February 9, 2011
“Morozov has produced an invaluable book. Copies should be smuggled to every would-be Twitter revolutionary, and to their clueless groupies in the Western democracies.”

New York Times Book Review, February 6, 2011
As Evgeny Morozov demonstrates in ‘The Net Delusion,’ his brilliant and courageous book, the Internet’s contradictions and confusions are just becoming visible through the fading mist of Internet euphoria. Morozov is interested in the internet’s political ramifications. ‘What if the liberating potential of the Internet also contains the seeds of depoliticization and thus dedemocratization?’ he asks. The Net delusion of his title is just that. Contrary to the ‘cyberutopians,’ as he calls them, who consider the Internet a powerful tool of political emancipation, Morozov convincingly argues that, in freedom’s name, the Internet more often than not constricts or even abolishes freedom.”

Evgeny Morozov: How the Internet strengthens dictatorships

The other  side of  of a tech writer  shares his view on Evgeny’s book  ” In “The Net Delusion”, Evgeny Morozov vents frustration at what he calls “cyber utopianism” in Western foreign policy. Far from being a tool to free the weak,  Morozov argues, oppressive regimes are now the expert manipulators of Web 2.0. He’s certainly got a point, says John Lloyd, but he is also wrong to assume no one in the State Department shares his concerns for more info on John Loyd’s point of view follow this link Mightiest for the mightiest: “The Net Delusion” | via – openDemocracy

Google  vs ITU #freeandopen  @ mymulticast

Google vs ITU #freeandopen Internet @mymulticast

FreeandOpen Google

But now, the UN telecom agency in charge of the conference, the International Telecommunications Union (ITU), has responded to Google’s campaign, telling TPM that such a move was not unexpected.

Okay we get this…. so who is behind all these big conferences and who is  hosting the WCIT conference and all the powers  behind these big elite conferences…..huge funding goes into hosting these conferences and nothing wrong with it…… but at least listen to some of us who have been sending our documents to ITU and UNITED NATIONS speaking of the current dangers taking place over the Internet and how they plan to solve these issues… and you never get a response via their  social sites….

@mymulticast The World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT)

@mymulticast The World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT)

At the request of our membership, ITU will convene the  The World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, from 3-14 December 2012.

The World Conference on International Telecommunications 2012 (WCIT-12) is to be convened by ITU in accordance with the decision of its governing body, the Plenipotentiary Conference composed of 193 Member States, and under the procedures specified in the ITU Constitution and Convention and Resolutions.

This landmark conference will review the current International Telecommunications Regulations (ITRs)

which serve as the binding global treaty outlining the principles which govern the way international voice, data and video traffic is handled, and which lay the foundation for ongoing innovation and market growth. The ITRs were last negotiated in Melbourne, Australia in 1988, and there is broad consensus that the text now needs to be updated to reflect the dramatically different information and communication technology (ICT) landscape of the 21st century.

On a  final note …is  user privacy,  freedom to voice, learn & end point rights  important for many of us? and for many of us  who  access the Internet as  users… is it important  those of us who work with innocent children and women globally  to keep them safe on the Internet ? how important is it for us to also protect their end point rights. ……or do say- hey I don’t give a damn about my privacy rights and my information… I am not sure about you .. unless we dialogue and include many who care …during these conferences.   I care about the my rights and the rights of many  innocent users who may not have a choice to voice during the up coming WCIT conference……. I care as a women and when I work with many youth and  children in developing and developed countries and with them in their communities when we design our own digital learning projects.